Some of the things I've learned along the way (part 1)
By Rita on Nov 22, 2009 | In My Story, Parasites, Molds & Fungi, Bacteria | 3 feedbacks »
I’ve had people ask me what products were used in the way the Alternative Dr was working with me for killing parasites. Most people that I have watched on health forums over the past two years, gasp when I tell them it was intensive, and not something I would have ever known on my own. I intend to make a post of different herbal, and homeopathic products that tested good for me, and were affective, but one of the reasons I don’t like to tell people to take a specific product, is because everyone has their own type of pathogens they are dealing with. What worked for me at one point, wouldn’t have worked for me at a different point. It really did matter what type of pathogens I was dealing with, for what products (herbs) were the most affective at that particular time. I feel bad when I watch people on health forums, that think they only have a couple of choices for products, and that those particular herbalists protocal’s are how it has to be done. I have watched many people become fearful of going longer than 30 days on a product, because the herbalist is adamant that going longer than that, without taking a 3 month break, is the cause of resistant parasites. I disagree.
Follow up:
In my opinion, the number one most important thing the Alternative Dr. did with me, was using the different types of biofeedback techniques he is very skilled at. Unfortunately, I’ve also watched people trying to find good Naturopathic Dr’s to help work with them, but many of them discover that it’s not just the Medical Dr’s that don’t have the knowledge, or understanding of pathogens, but many ND type Dr’s don’t either.
Even when people try to find out what they have going on with them, many times the different kinds lab tests will come back as being negative. That’s true of people that have Lyme co-infections too. However, there are also times when people truly need to find out what they have going on with them, rather than guessing and trying to deal with a chronic issue themselves. Aiming to kill what is suspected to be a candida/fungal infection, has often-times tested to not be what the true problem is, and bacterial overgrowths that may be the actual problem, are not addressed.
When I say the Alternative Dr was very good at biofeedback techniques, I am talking about several different methods he used. Biofeedback, no matter what type is being used, is only as good as the experience, knowledge, and understanding is, of the practitioner is that is doing the testing.
Because he is located almost 4 hours from where I live, I would go back to him once a month for more biofeedback testing, mainly muscle testing, to see what I was needing to hit at that time; plus to see what product(s) were going to work the best for hitting whatever it was that was showing the strongest then; plus at what dosages I needed to take the products to hit the specific parasites that were showing to be the current problem.
Parasites “cycle", and it never failed to take me by surprise when he would pick up with the muscle testing (with homeopathic vials), that I once again had a type of parasite to address that I thought I had gotten cleaned up. Like he told me, the parasites go through cycles, and that’s one of the reasons people get into problems with them when they are trying to hit them themselves, is because they think they are “cured” and done. He told me from the start, that the worst thing people can do when they get into parasite killing, is to think they can do a 30 day course of dewormer, and stop. He also was adamant, that if a patient starts with him with killing the parasites, if they stop on their own, he will not start over again with them. If a patient is not also willing to work on also addressing things like the colon, and the liver too, then he won’t even start with them. I can understand from his viewpoint, why he would not be willing to take on a patient that is not willing to do their part. It definetly takes self-discipline, and can get discouraging at times, but the willingness to stick it out is important. It’s also not cheap.
From the very start, one of the most important things he told me, was “to expect this could take a good year or more", and that it was going to also involve addressing other things as well. For me, the chronically, sick liver has been the main problem, but the glands have been another major problem he’s had to help me address. Everything is connected in some way. If one thing is out of balance, it affects something in a different way. That’s why I call it the “teeter-totter effect".
After killing off a big load of different types of flukes, I was surprised when after a 4 month period of not seeing signs of them, and not muscle testing that they were a problem that needed to be addressed–that they once again showed up as what I needed to be hitting. Time and time again, when I would return the next month, what I had been taking that had showed to be the most effective products I had needed previously, wasn’t what I needed to continue with. And he was always right with what the muscle testing showed I needed at that point, because switching to something that was a different herbal blend, would hit something from a totally different angle.
I would rather not name the liquid type of deworming product that I had put myself on when I jumped the gun and started myself deworming. However, because it was working effectively with a couple of other products I was also taking at the same time, he had me keep taking them, because they were also muscle testing as being good products for me…however..
After the first 3 months, muscle testing showed that those same products I had been taking, were no longer going to work effectively for me. I have watched people taking the same exact product, day in and day out for months on end, believing there could not possibly be any other product as good as the one this particular herbalist makes up. That is one of the ways that people get themselves into further messes. Not only do parasites become resistant to the same thing being used day after day, month after month, and now year after year..but because some of the herbs are also antibacterial, it’s no different than staying on antibiotics long-term. They are “non-selective", and are not just killing off the bad bacterias. It can be a balancing act.
Many times, I have seen how people are affected mentally, and emotionally, by discovering they have parasites living in them. The example of the person I am referring to, is a good example of that. The fear of the parasites ever getting as bad again, has given her a fear of ever going off of the deworming herbs (for the rest of her life). That’s not good either.
We are all exposed to parasites on a daily basis. Understanding why the body was in the state it was to begin with, so the parasites were able to get the advantage to become such a problem to begin with, has been a learning process for me..and it will never end. The more I learn, and gain some understanding of how much more is involved, the more I realize there is to learn. When the Alternative Dr told me it was “like peeling the layer’s of an onion", he nailed it. The most important thing I would say to people that think they want to address the pathogens, is to take the time to learn things for yourself. Do your own research. Understand what it is you are dealing with, and what else may also be involved too.
I have also had the help of a more experienced friend, who has his own biofeedback machine, and also has the experience of working with a group of family and friends through the year’s. By what he has learned for himself, he has been guiding me through alot of this. Because the Alternative Dr has been open to checking for things specifically that I ask him too, he has also learned about things he was not aware of.
As an example..
The experienced friend, told me to have the Alternative Dr. check for a specific parasite that he has found to be connected to the Cytomegalovirus that had been found to be strong for me. Sure enough, when the Alt. Dr. specifically checked for D. Immitis, AKA “Dog Heart Worm", it was found to be strong for both myself and my husband..who had also muscle tested strong for Cytomegalovirus, and who had also been on the Deseret Biologicals homeopathic series treatment for it too. The next month, after being on the specific “imprinted” homeopathic that the Alternative Dr made a remedy of, for Dog Heart Worm, the next month showed both my husband and I ok for both the Dog Heart Worm..and the Cytomegalovirus too!
This is the type of stuff that Hulda Clark also talks about in her book, but unless people really study it, they often overlook what all else she is saying about things that are found together.
The one most important thing to know about killing parasites–is it is not just parasites that are the problem. With the parasites there WILL be bacterias, there WILL be fungi, there WILL be weird pathogens you’d never think of, like spirochetes, and there WILL be toxins to deal with. How did I find that out? The other types of tests he had me do too.
The MSAS Professional Biomeridian computer test has also shown what I have to deal with specifically. Many times, it would verify what had already been found in the muscle testing. One time in particular, I had such a sore spot just under my left ribs, and I thought it was still from where one of the tapeworms had been attached. What he found with the computer testing, was it was my spleen, and it, along with the liver and pancreas, were showing very high for specific bacterial type pathogens. One of the things he has used the most with me more recently, after the larger load of parasites were knocked down, is homeopathics. The homeopathic remedy that showed I needed the most at that particular time, was for specific livestock/animal pathogens, and for chemical toxins. Within the next month, after being on those particular homeopathic remedies, my spleen not only felt much better, but it showed to be within the normal range in the biofeedback computer testing too (which uses accupuncture points).
One of the most important things I know also made a difference for me, was having the Alternative Dr also helping me pay attention to the elimination organs constantly being addressed too. I have no doubt, that as sick as my liver was to begin with..that I could have made quite a mess for myself by not knowing to also be addressing the liver, bowels, and lymph at the same time too.
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I too, have had to change herbs along the way. Resistance is a concern.
I don't think I'll ever understand these critters.
Let's not forget that parasites are manipulators of their hosts; they don't like to feel uncomfortable. It is a false sense of security to take something for a long period of time, especially, if there are no significant changes. Actually, you do more harm than good. Therefore, if you're uncomfortable, the parasites are uncomfortable too! Changing up the program is a must to keep them off guard.
That makes sense, and is most likely the reason that the products like the Standard Process Zymex2, which are solely enzymes (papain, bromelain, and ficin), are used for killing tapeworms. I knew ascaris have the 3 layers of skin that make them harder to hit too, and thought that was the reason the enzymes also kill ascaris too, but I hadn't considered that our digestive enzymes are already diminished by the ascaris, because of them putting out this enyzme inhibitor.
All of the Systemic Formulas VRM products, have a proteolytic enzyme in them. The VRM2 that I was on specially when I was killing ascaris, also had the instructions in the manual in the ND's office, that said "unless you are committed to following the program for the duration, don't start". They are taken in rounds, 10 days on, 5 days off- for a minimum of 4 rounds. For the duration too, no red meat could be eaten, because they intended the enzyme in it to digest the parasites, not food. I've found them to be important with all parasite killing, for several different reasons. If a parasite is killed in a closed cavitity (like the heart- say, dog heart worm), the proteolytic enzymes work like little "pac men" to clean up the decaying stuff. Another thing they do, is hit the cysts that may be hidden from the immune system by biofilms, so the immune system is able to recognize them and kill them.
I've found alot of information on how Proteolytic enzymes, taken in between meals, work "systemically", and are used in many Alternative cancer treatments too. The better types are sold by the unit, not by the mg's.
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